[03:13:57] *** Quits: myoriel1 (~Myoriel@dslb-084-056-148-250.pools.arcor-ip.net) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [07:10:41] *** Quits: flerko (~flerko@46.148.31.193) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [11:03:20] *** Joins: bakibour (579c5eb0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.156.94.176) [11:03:25] Greetings [11:03:29] Anyone awake? [11:45:01] *** Joins: myoriel (~Myoriel@dslb-084-056-148-250.pools.arcor-ip.net) [12:12:51] hey [12:12:56] myoriel: Awake:)? [12:50:13] *** Joins: Arla (~Arla@80-244-92-86.customer.t3.se) [13:01:39] Arla: Hello [13:01:55] bakibour: hello [13:02:02] Ah cool :) [13:02:24] Would you mind me asking some general questions about GF? Or are you short on time? [13:02:43] I'm really a beginner myself [13:02:55] Ah ok :) well i have 0 experience :) [13:03:02] Then I'll do my best! [13:03:25] I would like to use GF to analyse texts, is that possible? [13:03:49] I believe so. [13:04:19] Cool [13:04:32] Im still missing something like a feature list or so. [13:04:45] You'd have to write a lot of code, though. GF is not a self-contained language processing tool. You have to specify the grammar yourself. [13:05:04] I read that there are grammers for german and english etc. [13:05:20] http://www.grammaticalframework.org/ [13:05:27] At the bottom of the page [13:05:44] yeah [13:05:54] those define most of the grammar [13:06:28] But that is not sufficient? [13:07:08] But the lexical definitions you have to make yourself. That is, a list of words that exist, like "house" and "party" and "snuggle". [13:07:30] Interesting choice of words :) [13:08:03] That is too bad is there no way to maybe utilize some online service like a dictionary? [13:08:18] So the libraries contain things like "you", "very much", how regular verbs are inflected and word order rules. [13:08:34] Not that I know of. [13:09:09] So what i need to have additionally is something like a POS tagger? [13:09:25] I don't know what that is :) [13:09:31] And then GF would be able to extract the sentence structure. [13:09:38] Part of speech tagger. [13:09:49] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Part-of-speech_tagging [13:10:05] Well, GF does that for you, provided you tell it what words exist. [13:10:13] (and what word class they might belong to) [13:11:02] But rather than tag the words, it builds a tree. [13:13:11] Like I said, I'm not absolutely sure I'm giving you accurate answers here, you might want to confirm this with one of the developers or the more active users (those two categories of people largely overlap, I guess) [13:13:24] :) [13:13:33] Are they in the eu time zone? [13:23:49] you could extract stems from apertium [13:23:54] for english, and kind of for german too [13:25:22] (for inclusion into gf) [13:27:10] Hey [13:27:34] That sounds good. [13:28:03] what are you interested in doing ? [13:28:16] I would like to build a small tool for writers i think. [13:28:37] I would like to extract verbs and the objects they relate to for starters. [13:29:08] Verbs are the actions of any story and i would like to render the author a concise map what which character does. [13:29:15] ok, that sounds like something you could probably do with GF [13:29:39] So lets say that the protagonist is always the target of actions then you would most likely see that he is too passive etc. [13:29:53] Awesome :) [13:30:08] So all i need is to get the word stems in the system? [13:30:56] I think now that i might be able to do what i want with GF im willing to read the tutorial file. [13:31:14] Maybe even buy the book if it adds anything substantial. [13:31:36] interesting idea [13:32:26] Also since i am able to write Haskell i might just extend the source with some thingy that just looks up the word stem somewhere. [13:32:39] Instead of extracting stuff from the site. [13:33:19] Once i can do this you can add a shit load of cool stuff to it. [13:33:46] https://github.com/elaichi/apertium-de-en-dev/blob/master/de-vocab.speling [13:33:52] i think this should be a full form list of german [13:34:15] Nice :) so i wont even have to do that :) [13:34:24] Thank you very much. [15:08:06] *** Quits: bakibour (579c5eb0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.156.94.176) (Quit: Page closed) [16:30:34] *** Quits: myoriel (~Myoriel@dslb-084-056-148-250.pools.arcor-ip.net) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [19:43:49] *** Joins: inariksit (~inari@ksit.fixme.fi) [19:56:09] *** Joins: palgova (~palgova@188.120.237.89) [20:35:44] *** Quits: palgova (~palgova@188.120.237.89) (Remote host closed the connection) [20:48:29] *** Joins: dullard (~dullard@194.29.185.34) [21:38:16] *** Quits: Arla (~Arla@80-244-92-86.customer.t3.se) (Quit: Ex-Chat) [23:50:46] *** Quits: spectie (~fran@unaffiliated/spectie) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)