[03:41:32] *** Quits: Flammie (~flammie@80.111.32.7) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [03:41:51] *** Joins: Flammie (~flammie@80.111.32.7) [06:21:28] *** Quits: crazydiamond (~crazydiam@178.141.71.201) (Remote host closed the connection) [14:24:49] inariksit, [14:25:12] yeah? [14:25:34] do you think it'll be possible to send a bank statement from GF/where the grant is coming from? [14:25:47] umm I don't know what you mean [14:25:50] wait [14:25:52] from GF? [14:26:19] not exactly, who is distributing the grants? [14:26:39] centre for language technology [14:26:50] aah, from them, then [14:26:52] partly from that, partly from government of malta [14:26:53] because for a conference visa [14:26:58] maybe partly from Digital Grammars [14:26:58] I need to provide [14:27:02] :( [14:27:06] sounds horrible [14:27:12] wait, i'll send you the link [14:27:14] is it malta or india who is so painful, or the combination? [14:27:19] http://mt.vfsglobal.co.in/pdf/Malta_Business_Visa_Checklist_030414.pdf [14:27:36] schengen + india :S [14:27:52] :( [14:27:53] sucks [14:28:05] yeah [14:28:11] I was speaking to these visa agents [14:28:30] the lady said don't do a tourist visa because they may say "why are you attending a summer school then" [14:28:41] gaah [14:28:54] so just say you're going to hang out in beach ^_^ [14:29:31] 21 year old guy going alone to Malta for two weeks may make people suspicious :P [14:29:49] i'm thinking of asking another visa agency and seeing what they say [14:29:52] yeah [14:29:55] because i don't see wh it should matter [14:30:03] yeah [14:30:08] such idiocy [14:30:21] yeah T_T [14:30:34] but yeah I don't even know if CLT is an entity with bank details [14:30:44] I can go and ask our administrators [14:31:04] that would be great, can you? [14:31:12] otherwise, if it's being partially funded by the government of Malta [14:31:18] I can mention that on my covering letter [14:31:22] and they shouldn't ideally complain [14:31:30] it's their own government ;__; [14:41:11] haha yeah [14:41:14] ok so I talked to 2 people [14:41:48] and? [14:42:14] second one said she can book your flight, and she asked for a detailed list of all you need [14:42:23] do you have updates or can I just forward one of the old mails? [14:43:06] I think I can book my flight, that isn't a problem.. i just need to prove to the visa guys that the "inviting company" is financially solvent [14:43:14] I tried to explain open source to them but they don't understand hahah [14:43:28] no but they can also pay the flight at the same time [14:43:31] they actually prefer that [14:43:37] they said it's a pain to send money to india [14:43:44] or is it a problem for you? [14:43:46] oh, that would be great, then [14:43:48] hang on [14:43:48] ok [14:44:25] "it's a pain to send money to india" [14:44:33] it's a pain to do pretty much anything with paperwork in india [14:44:36] hihi [14:44:51] so, if you have anything to update, send email to rankanen@chalmers.se [14:45:27] she'll be able to book&pay your flight, and hopefully get access to the bank details [14:45:44] so just all the details what you need, and cc me so I'll be in the loop [14:46:19] my flight isn't on the website right now, the same people who are doing the visa have blocked it for me, so i'll speak to them about it tomorrow [14:46:22] they'll be closed now [14:46:25] okay! [14:46:29] whose ID is that? [14:46:40] it's an administrator for my division [14:46:58] I talked first to the nearest administrator in my corridor, and she directed me to Tiina Rankanen [14:47:20] I have no clue who's doing what, I just know there are several people with title "administratör" and they handle money and stuff :-D [14:47:23] okay great [14:47:25] hahaha [14:47:38] if I can get bank details and stuff, visa would be easy, I think [14:47:46] yeah [14:47:49] i've already mailed aarne about it, should I wait for his reply, or cc him too? [14:47:54] yeah cc aarne too [14:48:09] cool [14:48:14] tiina does this for her job, so she'll likely answer quickly and know more than aarne [14:49:37] (is her name finnish, btw?) [14:49:39] yeah :) [14:49:50] but she doesn't speak finnish afaik [14:50:14] non-indo-european stuff sounds so different <3 [14:52:37] ^^ [15:02:17] i've sent the mail [15:02:37] the university is closed on saturdays, I'm guessing? [15:04:58] yep [15:22:53] *** Joins: LukeG (82f1d59a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.241.213.154) [15:28:20] Hi Inari (and others)! [15:28:32] I have question based on something from the Google Doc Aarne created. [15:29:11] He says that we should know how to "compute the probability of a tree (I'm guessing abstract or concrete here) assuming unbiased distribution (Ch 2, 6)" [15:29:48] I've read the relevant material from the book but I'm still not clear on how the probability calculation is made. [15:32:22] The book says this for example: "For instance, the Food grammar (Figure 12 in Section 2.6) can be given the following probability confi guration: This 0.8, Mod 0.2, Wine 0.0, Fresh 0.4.... (skipping a sentence)... Thus, for example, since This and That are the two constructors of Item, That receives the probability 0.2." [15:32:56] I don't really get the probability of 0.2 for That here. [15:56:42] hi! [15:56:44] let's see [16:01:46] anyway, do you remember the probabilistic CFGs from the intro to NLP course? [16:04:19] okay, I've read the book now; so in the abstract syntax, there are two ways to construct an Item: [16:04:22] This, That : Kind -> Item ; [16:04:31] no other functions have Item as their return type [16:04:49] there is a probability between 0-1 for every category [16:05:19] and the probability mass is divided among all the constructors for the category [16:06:01] (oops sorry, my earlier sentence was badly said; better said "there is probability mass worth of 1 for every category, and it is divided among all the constructors in that category") [16:06:29] so, for Item, the probability mass is divided so that This gets 0.8 and That gets the remaining 0.2 [16:07:17] for Kind, we know that Wine never occurs: it has probability 0.0 [16:07:59] and no other probabilities are specified for constructors of Kind; then it defaults to 0.5 for Cheese and 0.5 for Fish [16:09:12] and for Quality, Fresh has 0.4, and the remaining 0.6 is distributed evenly among Warm, Italian, Expensive, Delicious and Boring [16:10:07] and how to compute the probability of the tree? for "This Fish" it's 0.8 * 0.5 [16:10:12] That Fish 0.2 * 0.5 [16:10:57] since the Kinds have same probability (except poor Wine which has 0.0), it's as likely to have This Fish or This Cheese; same for That Fish and That Cheese [16:30:25] Oh, hey! Thanks a lot :D [16:30:33] I was just on SGS looking for rooms for next year haha. [16:30:53] I will look over everything you've said and see if I can do the question now. Thank you so much. [16:34:41] (I just read "except poor Wine which has 0.0" ahaha) [16:40:09] ooh good luck! [16:40:12] with SGS [16:41:45] Thank you :) [16:43:30] tiina replied, she's taking a look at the finances \o/ [16:44:04] vin-ivar: nice! [18:00:12] *** Quits: LukeG (82f1d59a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.241.213.154) (Quit: Page closed) [22:05:29] *** Quits: vin-ivar (~vinit@122.170.45.192) (Read error: No route to host) [22:13:38] *** Joins: vin-ivar (~vinit@122.170.45.192)