[00:44:15] *** Quits: koom_ (~koo5@79.98.72.195) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [03:45:06] In English, with mass nouns, I didn't want "I have pen", "I am teacher", to parse, which MassNP would allow. I had the luxury of a restricted vocabulary, so I made the count nouns CN, left the mass nouns as N and with a MassDet (= Det) cat, and a MassItem ( MassDet -> N -> NP ) fun, parsed [03:45:25] "I have wealth", but not "I have pen". [04:17:00] *** Quits: drbean (~drbean@210.60.168.195) (Quit: ZNC 1.6.5 - http://znc.in) [04:49:33] *** Joins: drbean (~drbean@TC210-63-209-91.static.apol.com.tw) [04:51:13] *** Quits: esg (~emil@esg.xen.prgmr.com) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [04:51:20] *** Joins: esg (~emil@esg.xen.prgmr.com) [05:13:37] *** Quits: stoopkid (uid137696@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lgfcucyqykglodxv) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [05:16:51] *** Joins: stoopkid (uid137696@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uwmytxsqwdwgvkfg) [08:59:55] *** Joins: Guest4327 (~biocage@61.168.113.55) [09:13:09] *** Quits: Guest4327 (~biocage@61.168.113.55) (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 52.0/20170303012224]) [09:35:56] inariksit: after thinking about it, i wonder if, since the noun is used like an adjective in this situation in french, if one could introduce them as such. [09:36:38] of course, a drawback would be that thinks like "i am very teacher" would be type correct. [09:50:10] *** Joins: koom_ (~koo5@79.98.72.195) [09:50:43] *** Quits: proteus-guy (~proteus-g@2405:9800:bc10:1ca:48ba:f481:5715:a731) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [10:00:26] *** Joins: proteus-guy (~proteus-g@2405:9800:bc10:1ca:7d87:25d0:e165:d569) [11:28:31] *** Joins: koom__ (~koo5@79.98.72.195) [11:28:44] *** Joins: kook_ (~sirdancea@109.107.211.244) [11:31:36] *** Quits: koom_ (~koo5@79.98.72.195) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [11:31:36] *** Quits: koom (~sirdancea@109.107.211.244) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [11:51:31] *** Quits: proteus-guy (~proteus-g@2405:9800:bc10:1ca:7d87:25d0:e165:d569) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [12:08:23] *** Joins: proteus-guy (~proteus-g@184.22.251.168) [12:29:01] [12:42:04] esg: but can't you use it like that? "i am very teacher but i am less teacher than aarne" [13:35:43] daherb: in english this sounds very doge to me. in swedish it sounds almost ok! [14:20:55] *** Quits: koom__ (~koo5@79.98.72.195) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [14:28:32] *** Joins: koom__ (~koo5@79.98.72.195) [14:31:29] esg: are you creating a semantic abstract syntax? [14:32:07] when I say semantic, I mean "something that is not just the old RGL" [14:32:48] whatever the category of teacher is in your abstract syntax, if you don't allow it to be modified by "very" in abstract syntax, then you cannot parse "I am very teacher" [14:45:27] *** Quits: koom__ (~koo5@79.98.72.195) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:55:33] inariksit: yes, i am, so i agree that if i'm not allowing it it won't happen. here it's more a case of wanting to both have an elegant and reasonably efficient implementation, but at the same time not straying too far from the linguistics. [15:06:41] I wouldn't worry about that myself, if I were writing something like you're doing now [15:07:20] if it's simpler and results in nicer code than using ComplCN and forcing the copula into a V2, I'd just go for it [15:08:30] making it into adjective is even nicer because then you can represent the fem/masc distinction all in one word [15:09:10] in Dictionary.gf, we have added teacher_Masc_N and teacher_Fem_N, and it's still totally fine to write "she is a teacher(masc)" and "he is a teacher(fem)" [15:09:38] but if you make your teacher into an adjective, with Agr => Str, and your NPs have an inherent Agr, then you cannot parse "she is a teacher(masc)" [15:09:49] who cares about linguistic motivation, we're grammar engineers [15:31:36] :-) [15:32:19] i'll go for the adjective solution then! [15:48:58] ^^ [17:47:34] *** Quits: kook_ (~sirdancea@109.107.211.244) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [19:30:02] *** Joins: koom (~koo5@236.152.broadband3.iol.cz) [21:05:13] *** Joins: koom_ (~koo5@109.107.211.244) [21:07:31] *** Quits: koom (~koo5@236.152.broadband3.iol.cz) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [21:08:01] *** Quits: proteus-guy (~proteus-g@184.22.251.168) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [21:12:18] *** Joins: proteus-guy (~proteus-g@184.22.246.192) [22:05:21] *** Quits: koom_ (~koo5@109.107.211.244) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [22:53:01] *** Quits: proteus-guy (~proteus-g@184.22.246.192) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [22:56:18] *** Joins: proteus-guy (~proteus-g@184.22.241.219)