[17:35:32] <freeside> okay. progress. i've got "Paris containing church". how do i make "church" into plural "churches"?
[17:35:43] <inariksit> woo!
[17:35:55] <inariksit> which fun did you use?
[17:36:18] <inariksit> if you go from a VP "contain churches" to Adv, you can just make the NP inside the VP plural
[17:42:28] <freeside>     mkAgg : CN -> NP;
[17:42:29] <freeside>     mkAgg class =
[17:42:29] <freeside>       mkNP a_Det
[17:42:29] <freeside>       (mkCN (mkCN (PE.mkA "Aggregate") (PE.mkN "Entity"))
[17:42:29] <freeside>          (ExtendEng.GerundAdv (mkVP DictEng.comprise_V2 (mkNP class))));
[17:42:43] <freeside> the Board of Directors of a Corporation is an Aggregate Entity comprising Director .
[17:42:48] <freeside> i want that to say: ... Directors
[17:43:40] <inariksit> yes, then you need mkNP : Det -> CN -> NP
[17:43:46] <inariksit> where Det is thePl_Det
[17:44:12] <inariksit> mkNP thePl_Det class
[17:44:25] <freeside> but i don't want it to say "comprising the Directors", i want it to say "comprising Directors".
[17:44:32] <freeside> i saw that there is the idea of a "noPrep"
[17:44:35] <inariksit> sorry yes
[17:44:41] <inariksit> just a sec
[17:44:45] <freeside> maybe i want a noPl_Det
[17:45:13] <inariksit> stupid to not have aPl_Det
[17:45:17] <inariksit> I thought it existed
[17:45:38] <inariksit> I mean in the RGL beyond API the tree would just be DetQuant IndefArt NumPl
[17:46:09] <inariksit> so you need  Quant -> Num -> CN -> NP
[17:46:30] <inariksit> with a_Quant and pluralNum
[17:46:47] <inariksit> that translates into no article in english
[17:46:53] <freeside> cool, well, (mkNP aPl_Det CN) works
[17:46:59] <inariksit> haha okay
[17:47:02] <freeside> thank you
[17:47:10] <inariksit> I wonder why it's not in the API
[17:47:14] <freeside> it is
[17:47:20] <freeside> i just didn't realize it was what i wanted
[17:47:40] <freeside> literally, aPl_Det would be "a things"
[17:47:42] <inariksit> oh yes it totally is
[17:48:37] <freeside> okay, i am getting closer to having a thing that converts an ontology/type-system/class-hierarchy to natural language
[17:48:45] <freeside> DMN and OWL will be my first sources
[17:49:48] <inariksit> yay!
[17:50:40] <freeside> i wonder if i can convert XML into something that would be easy for GF to parse
[17:51:25] <inariksit> mm, it needs to have spaces if we want to parse it with haskell runtime
[17:51:47] <freeside> if i'm coming from Haskell i can just do the XML parsing in Haskell directly
[17:51:53] <inariksit> yeah
[17:51:57] <freeside> and then drive the PGF from there
[17:52:12] <freeside> maybe it is time to bite the bullet and learn to wrangle XML in Haskell
[17:52:15] <inariksit> parsing with GF is often a bad idea
[17:52:44] <inariksit> do you want to head back to the flat btw? we're not really concentrating on the talk :-D
[17:52:54] <inariksit> where's alexis?
[17:53:35] <freeside> i thikn she is in the industry session, she will finish at 6:30
[17:53:41] <inariksit> okay
[17:53:51] <inariksit> right then we can wait for her!
[17:54:24] <freeside> i am finding it useful to occasionally see what the PhDs are working on. TIL SWRL syntax is very very close to Flora-2
[17:54:27] <freeside> i wonder if that is deliberate
[17:54:46] <inariksit> okay, so you are actually concentrating  ^^
[17:55:21] <freeside> i am not concentrating, i am just browsing
[17:55:34] <freeside> ah, Ben Grosof was involved in both SWRL and Flora-2, of course, now it makes sense
[17:56:25] <freeside> i'd like to debrief about your thoughts on MIREL and JURIX at some point, possibly over a glass of sangria
[17:56:28] <freeside> is sangria vegan?
[18:07:26] <inariksit> if the wine they use is vegan! but I usually don't bother that much, it's not like the parts of animals used in clarifying wine are the main purpose of growing those animals :-P
[18:07:55] <inariksit> and often people don't know if wines are vegan (and it's the first time they hear wine can be non-vegan) and that's just too much hassle
[18:08:04] <inariksit> so for my purposes, yeah it's vegan enough :-P
[18:10:50] <inariksit> (also the quantities used are tiny, and I consume wine really rarely, so I'm probably eating more insects accidentally than consuming animal products by my wine drinking)