[00:43:55] 00:46:07 someone should write an article "linguistic for the type theorist" [00:44:18] it exists already :---D [00:44:38] (also nevermind my clock that is ~3 mins in advance) [01:11:54] *** Quits: Eidel (~eidel@c83-249-247-253.bredband.comhem.se) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [01:52:53] *** Quits: jmvanel (~jmvanel@175.0.88.79.rev.sfr.net) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [04:15:46] What article is that article, Linguistics for the type theorist? [06:50:18] hehe no, I just meant that GF exists :P afaik there's no article like that [07:52:59] *** Joins: Eidel (~eidel@c83-249-247-253.bredband.comhem.se) [09:05:13] *** Quits: spectie (~fran@unaffiliated/spectie) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [09:06:52] *** Joins: myoriel (~Myoriel@2001:a60:138c:1701:c2e:6282:f57:174b) [09:35:24] *** Joins: spectie (~fran@unaffiliated/spectie) [09:36:44] *** Quits: myoriel (~Myoriel@2001:a60:138c:1701:c2e:6282:f57:174b) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:21:27] When trying to run gf on a a resource file I edited I stumble upon "Happened in the renaming of anything_NP constant not found: mkNP", is something not imported that should have been imported? [11:22:09] MasX: yeah, do you have SyntaxXxx imported? [11:22:16] Xxx being the name of your language [11:22:40] Yes. Should I try calling S.mkNP instead of just mkNP? [11:23:03] if you have imported it as (S=Syntax), then yes [11:23:49] otherwise you don't need to use the name of the module with imported functions [11:24:53] That works, thanks :) Any reason why it is imported as S=Syntax instead of a simple import? (TopDictionary made with help of wiktionary) [11:25:43] it might be because some functions appear in two places [11:25:51] like mkAdv in Paradigms and in Syntax [11:26:03] and if you don't qualify, the compiler warns [11:26:05] *** Quits: spectie (~fran@unaffiliated/spectie) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [11:26:49] or just that someone who made that, thought it looks clearer if we know where all imported functions come from [11:27:24] btw who are you MasX? :) [11:27:44] Erik :) [11:27:56] ah, ok! [11:28:13] *** Joins: spectie (~fran@unaffiliated/spectie) [11:28:36] oh and btw [11:28:37] 12:29:36 < MasX> I am a native speaker, but I find it difficult to come up with examples... [11:28:52] some of the subcategories are just automatically extracted and total bullshit [11:29:02] ah right [11:29:03] so if you have a common verb in the topdict, like take [11:29:23] then you have almost everything, take_V, take_V2, V2A etc [11:29:27] don't care about them too much [11:29:37] What will happen if I add ---- subcat? Are these checked, or will they be automatically pruned? (What to do when in doubt?) [11:29:54] aarne was just earlier this week trying to do an automatic check based on framenet [11:30:08] but maybe they will be just manually checked at some point :) [11:30:30] and anyway, if these verbs are not really used, they probably won't appear in real parses either [11:30:44] Right [11:31:22] some are a bit unintuitive, I remember I was wondering about have_VS; like is it for the structure "I have it that [...]" [11:31:48] and it was pretty hard to come up with a finnish translation :P just ended up with something long and awkward sounding [11:31:57] Haha okay [11:32:03] oh I need to go [11:32:08] good luck with checking! [11:32:09] ---> [11:32:14] thanks :) [11:40:15] hey inariksit ! ^^ [11:40:24] MasX, native speaker of ? [11:40:30] dutch [11:40:38] :) [11:43:33] *** MasX is now known as Masx [12:24:45] *** Quits: spectie (~fran@unaffiliated/spectie) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [12:35:40] *** Joins: chru (~christina@2001:638:504:2099:31ce:6c10:8a75:b8b4) [12:38:26] *** Joins: spectie (~fran@unaffiliated/spectie) [12:41:31] *** Quits: chru (~christina@2001:638:504:2099:31ce:6c10:8a75:b8b4) (Quit: Leaving.) [12:41:50] *** Joins: chru (~christina@elpollodiablo.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE) [12:42:41] does order matter when, for example, both reflV and fixprefixV need to be applied? [12:42:50] (both V -> V) [12:49:40] *** Joins: jmvanel (~jmvanel@175.0.88.79.rev.sfr.net) [12:55:51] *** Quits: jmvanel (~jmvanel@175.0.88.79.rev.sfr.net) (Remote host closed the connection) [13:06:03] *** Joins: jmvanel (~jmvanel@175.0.88.79.rev.sfr.net) [13:23:02] *** Quits: chru (~christina@elpollodiablo.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE) (*.net *.split) [13:27:26] Masx: it could. depends on how those opers are implemented [13:43:11] *** Joins: chru (~christina@2001:638:504:2099:31ce:6c10:8a75:b8b4) [13:50:39] (Eng has a function mkAdA, so there's a way to hack it, but Dut and Ger don't have it...) [14:05:23] alright, thanks [14:36:17] *** Quits: spectie (~fran@unaffiliated/spectie) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [14:49:31] *** Joins: spectie (~fran@unaffiliated/spectie) [14:50:43] chru: I told about your problem to aarne, he asked what is the lincat of your trees, he said that if it's something other than a string (or {s:Str} basically), it'll just show up as empty [15:11:31] inariksit: cool, thanks. this could be the problem. (at the highest level they have lincat Utt, which is { s : Str }, i think, but maybe i was trying to linearize on a lower clause level, i'll check.) 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