[01:59:52] Perhaps, 'go/report to the office drunk' [02:02:25] Wait, that means the person who goes/reports is drunk, but in 'paint it red,' it is red. [02:02:39] 'it' [04:06:40] *** Quits: Deseaus (~Deseaus@ttt9911.olf.sgsnet.se) (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 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[13:18:36] *** Joins: spectie (~fran@unaffiliated/spectie) [13:27:32] drbean: yep :) in the drunk example, drunk is an adverb [13:28:49] which example ? [13:30:13] go to the office drunk as an example of V2A [13:31:48] "to drunk go where no man has gone before" doesn't sound very good though :-D [13:32:01] drunk is not an adverb there *heresy* [13:32:26] *** Joins: Deseaus (~Deseaus@wpa175.guwlan.gu.se) [13:33:26] could we say it's an adverbial? [13:37:57] hi Deseaus! did you get a solution to your problem? [13:38:08] V2A: In "paint the house red", the house is red. It's now a red house. [13:38:38] mm-m [13:38:57] go somewhere drunk is not at least V2 [13:39:05] at least is not a V2 [13:39:08] Can V2A serves 2 purposes? [13:39:10] wtf word order :P [13:39:52] what do you mean? if it's just a syntactic category, I guess you can define a V2A where the second argument takes preposition "to" [13:40:05] and analyse "go [to the office] [drunk]" as that [13:41:09] http://www1.icsi.berkeley.edu/~kay/bcg/II-Pred.html [13:41:28] there's something similar [13:41:47] "I started this project quite enthusiastic" [13:41:59] "We kept quiet" [13:42:33] The RGL English example is "paint (NP) (AP)" [13:43:57] yeah, that's definitely a V2; this drunken office example has problems that "go" isn't transitive and "drunk"'s adjective function is questionable [13:44:23] "keep quiet" would be a VA [13:44:26] btw, jonathan parsed it as: [13:44:44] (spectie went to ask a linguist upstairs :-D) [13:44:46] i went [to [the [office drunk]]] [13:44:53] as in, the guy who is always drunk at the office [13:45:02] :-D [13:45:06] :D [13:45:07] compounding! [13:45:10] officedrunk [13:45:16] I approve that [13:45:17] such english :| [13:45:27] Hey Inari! Yes I managed to sort it out yesterday with Aarne. Just going to start editing the Top Dictionary for Catalan. I'll probably have more questions once I get into it :P [13:45:42] ok, great! :) [13:45:53] is that your project for the course? [13:46:08] Yep! Starting a bit late with it I'm afraid... [13:47:10] that's something you can just do whenever you're bored and have your computer :) [13:47:18] now going to LREC ---> [13:50:48] *** Quits: spectie (~fran@unaffiliated/spectie) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [13:53:06] *** Quits: Eidel_ (~eidel@c83-249-247-253.bredband.comhem.se) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [13:54:05] *** Joins: Eidel (~eidel@c83-249-247-253.bredband.comhem.se) [14:14:58] *** Joins: spectie (~fran@217.28.182.64) [14:15:00] *** Quits: spectie (~fran@217.28.182.64) (Changing host) [14:15:00] *** Joins: spectie (~fran@unaffiliated/spectie) [14:22:14] *** Quits: spectie (~fran@unaffiliated/spectie) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:22:32] *** Joins: spectie (~fran@unaffiliated/spectie) [14:39:27] *** Quits: spectie (~fran@unaffiliated/spectie) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [15:52:39] At http://www1.icsi.berkeley.edu/~kay/bcg/II-Pred.html, it has: "The soldiers reached the camp exhausted" and "The boy delivered the package wet". 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