[00:00:01] <inariksit> hahahah
[00:00:03] <inariksit> :D
[00:00:08] <inariksit> btw I live in sweden now :)
[00:00:22] <crazydiamond> I like Eternal Tears of Sorrow :P
[00:00:29] <crazydiamond> and Amaranthe from Sweden
[00:01:20] <crazydiamond> and also like songs like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK3yiS3fUyM#t=74
[00:01:48] <inariksit> hahah nice!
[00:01:54] <inariksit> I like this band https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRaV_k4HEmY
[00:02:30] <crazydiamond> sinisia punasie ruusun kukkia ka..dan kädesani -> "Blue, Red and Brown flowers I take in my hand"?
[00:02:35] <crazydiamond> is it correct?
[00:02:43] <inariksit> kannan kädessäni :)
[00:02:48] <inariksit> ruusu means rose
[00:02:54] <crazydiamond> oh
[00:02:58] <inariksit> so "blue, red rose flowers I carry in my hand"
[00:02:58] <crazydiamond> not ruskea
[00:03:01] <inariksit> yeah :D
[00:03:07] <crazydiamond> carry, yes
[00:03:15] <inariksit> so you know udmurt and komi?
[00:03:18] <crazydiamond> I forget ENglish word too :D
[00:03:19] <inariksit> I'm reading the backlog
[00:03:20] <inariksit> :D
[00:03:31] <crazydiamond> udmurt and bit of komi
[00:04:06] <crazydiamond> @ your link -> seems to be more like progressive rock
[00:04:11] <inariksit> as your native language or you've learnt it later?
[00:04:15] <crazydiamond> learnt
[00:04:19] <crazydiamond> native is Russian
[00:04:24] <inariksit> ok :)
[00:04:27] <inariksit> that's cool!
[00:04:33] <inariksit> and some finnish as well apparently
[00:04:43] <crazydiamond> some words... yes
[00:05:15] <crazydiamond> Minä olen Andrei. Minä olen Venäjältä, Kirov kaupungista
[00:05:18] <crazydiamond> like this
[00:05:39] <crazydiamond> or "Kirovin kaupungista"
[00:06:16] <inariksit> yeah :) or just "Kirovista"
[00:07:28] <crazydiamond> Finnish is also interesting. In 2009 I was visiting Nightwish concert in Moscow, and learnt some words
[00:08:13] <crazydiamond> then I dig into internet and learnt abotu Udmurt, 'cause it was mother tongue of my grandfather
[00:08:23] <crazydiamond> native language I mean
[00:08:40] <inariksit> nice!
[00:08:50] <crazydiamond> but Nightwish sings in English
[00:09:06] <crazydiamond> and now turned to more like "commercial" band
[00:09:19] <inariksit> yeah :P haha, I was thinking of finnish bands that sing in finnish, and thought of korpiklaani :D have you heard of it?
[00:09:27] <inariksit> well it's folk metal, don't know if you like it
[00:09:28] <crazydiamond> yes
[00:09:31] <crazydiamond> "vodka"
[00:09:34] <inariksit> :D
[00:09:35] <inariksit> yeah
[00:09:37] <crazydiamond> I like
[00:09:39] <inariksit> ok not all in finnish
[00:09:46] <crazydiamond> Teräsbetoni
[00:09:54] <inariksit> you should ask Flammie suggestions
[00:10:26] <crazydiamond> about what?
[00:10:32] <inariksit> about finnish metal bands
[00:11:02] <inariksit> so are you doing now NLP for udmurt?
[00:11:06] <inariksit> or just as a hobby?
[00:11:38] <crazydiamond> hobby NLP for Udmurt
[00:12:04] <crazydiamond> I was paid for it when went to Udmurt language history and literature institute
[00:12:14] <crazydiamond> to give talk about it
[00:13:15] <inariksit> ooh cool!
[00:13:29] <inariksit> what kind of resources do you have?
[00:13:44] <inariksit> or for uralic minority languages in russia in general
[00:13:47] <crazydiamond> i.e. sources of language data?
[00:13:51] <inariksit> yeah
[00:13:59] <crazydiamond> dictionaries
[00:14:02] <inariksit> or like morphological analysis, parsers etc
[00:14:04] <inariksit> ok
[00:14:09] <crazydiamond> http://fu-lab.ru/
[00:14:28] <crazydiamond> enthusiasts and professionals work on HunSpell things
[00:16:13] <crazydiamond> i.e. dictionaries in HunSpell format
[00:16:33] <crazydiamond> and dictionaries are mostly in FU-Lab version of DSL format
[00:16:34] <inariksit> yeah
[00:16:54] <inariksit> that sounds like a good start
[00:17:03] <inariksit> if you ever want to write a GF grammar, we're here ;D
[00:17:40] <inariksit> I'm going to sleep now!
[00:18:18] <crazydiamond> bye!
[00:18:30] <inariksit> maybe this channel will at some point have more FP discussions :-D as you were lured here with promises of monads ;P
[00:18:34] <inariksit> good night :)
[00:23:03] <crazydiamond> haha nice :) thanks
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[16:00:03] <crazydiamond> greetings
[16:01:06] <crazydiamond> btw, I have read today few more chapters of "learn You a Haskell for Great Good" book. It seems to be even easy, but I need practice
[16:02:07] <crazydiamond> it GF good to practice Haskell or I need some other tasks to practice it?
[16:14:22] <chru> just to avoid misunderstandings: GF is not Haskell (it's "only" implemented in it and the syntax is quite close). but writing an application that uses GF grammars (using the Haskell API (http://www.grammaticalframework.org/doc/tutorial/gf-tutorial.html#toc147)) might actually be a very nice task to play with both Haskell and GF.
[16:15:01] <spectre> crazydiamond, you could look at implementing udmurt in haskell :)
[16:15:04] <spectre> there are some nice tutorials
[16:15:15] <spectre> and for a simple app you only need a small lexicon
[16:15:18] <spectre> like 350 words or so
[16:15:29] <crazydiamond> spectre, in haskell or in gf?
[16:15:43] <spectre> http://www.grammaticalframework.org/doc/gf-lrec-2010.pdf
[16:15:45] <spectre> in GF
[16:16:00] <crazydiamond> so, there's no parser and stuff is written in haskell?
[16:16:13] <spectre> it's all written in haskell
[16:16:15] <crazydiamond> ok
[16:16:25] <crazydiamond> I can look at implementing Russian too :P
[16:16:32] <spectre> they already have some stuff on russian
[16:16:33] <spectre> :)
[16:16:35] <spectre> but no udmurt >_>
[16:16:39] <crazydiamond> I'll check that
[16:16:49] <crazydiamond> thanks
[16:19:35] <crazydiamond> but
[16:19:42] <crazydiamond> when I look at language stats there https://github.com/GrammaticalFramework/GF/
[16:19:56] <crazydiamond> 96.4% GF
[16:20:05] <crazydiamond> 1.3% Haskell
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[16:27:11] <chru> if that's accurate, i guess the resource grammars in lib/src make up most of the code, so the actual implementation of the compiler etc. looks very little in comparison
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[17:08:17] <inariksit> ooh
[17:08:23] <inariksit> michal published his irish grammar
[17:08:24] <inariksit> http://www.lexiconista.com/gf/irish/
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