[02:56:10] *** Quits: Gurkenglas (~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [08:38:15] GF workshop starting [09:34:15] *** Quits: spectre (~fran@2001:8b0:951:728:7a31:c1ff:fecd:969e) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [09:58:47] *** Joins: Gurkenglas (Gurkenglas@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de) [10:10:36] hey people, can we make this channel look super active tomorrow! [10:10:50] I'll have my talk, and I'll show the irc channel [10:14:34] inariksit: what time do you want the activity? [10:15:49] hmm so my talk is starting 9:15 (8:15 in swedish time), around that time if possible [10:16:14] if you rather sleep, no worries, I'm not gonna call everyone and wake them up to fabricate some activity to the channel :-D [10:16:26] or we can at least talk something today so there is activity in the backlog [10:17:01] ah you are not even in sweden right [10:17:09] so 7:15 for you! [10:17:41] my other talk is in the afternoon, maybe that's better [10:28:27] 7.15 might be a little bit too early for me ... [10:28:34] hehe yeah [10:28:46] Afternoon would be fine though! [10:28:46] no need to make such sacrifices :-P [10:28:50] cool! [10:29:15] so let's just fill the backlog with talk today, in case I want to show the channel already in the morning :-D [10:29:20] how's it going with you? [10:29:28] you're still in galway? [10:29:59] it's going fine - still in Galway. And you? Still in Gothenburg when not in South Africa? [10:30:08] yeah :) [10:30:36] I haven't done much GF-related since summer school, I just had in last period 3 courses to TA [10:30:57] before that I submitted to LREC, will get the results end of january [10:31:11] has yout portuguese grammar advanced? [10:31:14] *r [10:31:25] let's hope for some positive results from LREC then. [10:32:10] yeah, I'm not certain my paper was most central theme, but would be nice anyway [10:32:14] The portuguese has not progressed much if at all. I had a busy semester, but I'm getting back into it now. [10:32:20] it was about analysing CG [10:32:35] cool :) you can be inspired by the ongoing summer school in ZA [10:32:45] I've taken some photos http://listenmaa.fi/za/ [10:32:48] CG? [10:32:53] constraint grammar [10:32:58] Ah. [10:34:00] nice pool! how's the flushing going? [10:34:07] hihi [10:34:14] doing my best [10:34:27] even if there are obstacles [10:34:34] speaking about progress of grammars. i shall send regards from hans to everyone [10:34:35] "like your life depends on it" :-D [10:34:50] daherb: yay! [10:35:15] is it a big event in ZA? how many attending? [10:35:20] esg: this slide describes my research very accurately https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1T2ViU1tv-uVfDsT_Q_Kqk0Fq9z3GcnhU4LwU8NpwFuM/edit?usp=sharing [10:35:25] he told me he wanted to work on ancient greek around christmas [10:35:34] it's a bit smaller than summer schools [10:35:38] 20-30 [10:35:45] daherb: but didn't manage? [10:35:49] nice [10:36:09] i don't know. i only met him once before [10:36:17] christmas [10:36:22] ah right [10:36:28] inariksit: love the slide. [10:37:17] thanks ^^ [10:37:27] daherb: how's the types course home exam? [10:37:30] or did you get it yet? [10:42:08] it seems to be ok. i should work on it at the moment but i am procrastinating a bit [10:44:15] cool [10:57:17] *** Quits: Gurkenglas (Gurkenglas@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [10:58:06] *** Quits: Flammie (~flammie@80.111.32.7) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [11:00:06] *** Joins: Flammie (~flammie@80.111.32.7) [11:01:56] btw daherb, esg, others, anyone interested in http://xixona.dlsi.ua.es/rbmt-summer-school/2016/ ? [11:02:12] 1/4 of it is GF [11:02:28] and the rest would be also useful, to share resources or just to hang out with RBMT people ^^ [11:16:44] inariksit: i'm interested [11:18:30] nice! [11:18:48] inariksit, are you doing the talks on GF? [11:18:51] I'll try to advertise it to my students too [11:18:55] vin-ivar: I don't know [11:22:43] also interested. but there are too many interesting options this summer and i don't think i can go everywhere [11:26:58] daherb: what other interesting things are happening? [11:27:14] (i'm not really following what is going on) [11:27:43] ((apart from what is advertised on the GF list)) [11:31:00] there is also the sigcnl in aberdeen, acl in berlin and esslli in trento where i would like to go as well [11:33:10] when is the cnl workshop? [11:33:47] the one in aberdeen? http://www.sigcnl.org/cnl2016.html [11:34:00] ah yeah [11:34:12] that goes well to combo with the rbmt thing! [11:34:47] are you going to submit there? [11:37:30] i have no real plan yet for this year. i only know that i should try to submit some stuff soon. and i guess we could demo muste at the cnl [11:37:47] yeah, that sounds like a good place [11:38:30] and the people are likely to be way more interested than in a more general conference [11:40:07] vin-ivar: are you planning to attend something this summer? [11:41:14] i also wonder if there might be some scientific interest in the ideas i have for my chat bot [11:41:15] I am not a bot! [11:41:24] totally [11:41:34] anna speaks a CNL ^^ [11:41:35] Are you talking about me? [11:41:46] i almost forgot that she is around here [11:42:15] yes, and it is even something like question answering as a translation task [11:42:33] if i get it running [11:43:10] i forgot to check in the changes before christmas so i could not work on it over the holidays [11:43:11] you just need some more home exams to procrastinate :-D [11:43:16] damn [11:57:24] inariksit, probably the RBMT school ^^ [11:57:53] yay [11:58:09] we could have another lentil flat \:D/ [11:58:15] with esg as a cook ^^ [11:58:32] haha :D [11:58:39] this time I could get some spices with me [11:58:48] ooh nice [11:58:54] and get stopped by airport security [11:58:56] WORTH IT [11:59:03] hahah [11:59:05] totally [11:59:18] lentils and singing [11:59:28] daherb: doesn't that make you want to reconsider! [12:02:24] haha [12:02:26] speaking of singing, [12:02:37] a choir version of this would be really cool - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJgdrkMtyA0 [12:06:06] will listen later [12:06:08] now lunch! [12:09:37] inariksit: i will talk to my supervisor [12:30:49] *** Joins: spectei (~fran@unaffiliated/spectie) [12:45:50] hey spectei [12:46:10] I'll show #gf to the south africa workshop tomorrow [12:46:24] my first lecture is 8:15-10 (norwegian time) and second 12:30-14 [12:46:36] so if you have free time, let's try to make the channel active [12:46:52] daherb, vin-ivar and esg have already generated a lot of backlog today :-D [13:09:55] hehe [13:10:12] incidentally, why is anna's name anna erin teen bot [13:10:12] Are you talking about me? [13:10:30] vin-ivar: hahaha [13:10:34] I never realised that [13:10:42] what? oO [13:10:43] wait [13:10:45] oh damn [13:10:48] anna är inte en bot [13:10:48] Are you talking about me? [13:10:50] hahaha [13:10:55] :---D [13:10:55] i got thrown off by the ae [13:11:05] yeah that's not commonly used in swedish afaik [13:11:10] (esg correct me if I'm wrong) [13:12:03] är is colloquially written just "e", that could be used in anna's name maybe [13:12:24] though I don't know if that gives a completely weird impression to be used in such a formal context as the bot's name [13:12:42] very formal, aye [13:13:29] strange that IRC doesn't support unicode [13:14:01] sorry, i don't know how to replace a ä in swedish. so i chose the german way [13:14:30] yeah, that's no problem, I don't know if annaarinteenbot would've been any better [13:14:36] anna erin teen bot ^^ [13:14:37] Are you talking about me? [13:14:40] daherb, how common is the replacement in germany? [13:14:53] annaaerinteenbot, är du en bot? [13:14:53] I am not a bot! [13:15:26] jag tror att hon är [13:16:50] in german it is quite common because originally it was written ae in medieval german, then the e was moven on top of the a and finally replaced by the two dots [13:17:16] aha [13:18:09] oh, i didn't know that, cool [13:19:04] hän and han/hon are the strangest non-cognates ever [13:22:18] hehe [13:22:25] what's the history of hän? [13:22:43] it's more common to use "se" to refer to everything, including humans [13:23:14] I vaguely remember reading that the distinction of se/hän was enforced by non-finnish grammarians [13:23:27] cause proper languages should have this distinction or something [13:23:56] and that "hän" had some kind of function to disambiguate referents, like "he said that he was sick", do the he1 and he2 refer to same or different people [13:28:59] aarne is showing example sentences "ich euch nicht gelibt haben würde" [13:29:03] *geliebt [13:51:25] inariksit, cool! [13:56:09] *** Joins: BobL (25fa8291@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.250.130.145) [13:57:32] hey BobL! [13:59:21] Good sunny afternoon in South Africa Inari :) [14:00:08] thanks ^^ [14:00:18] :) [14:00:37] *** Joins: Gurkenglas (Gurkenglas@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de) [14:01:23] we had this morning a near disaster, the whole university was closed because security personnel was on strike [14:01:31] and the organisers had to find a new location [14:02:05] I heard about that 30 minutes before start, the new place wasn't very near, but in the end we started only 40 minutes late [14:02:49] the location change included internet access, lunch and coffee, and probably things I don't even realise [14:02:49] Ouch. [14:03:12] wow [14:05:40] *** Quits: Gurkenglas (Gurkenglas@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [14:12:19] *** Joins: Gurkenglas (Gurkenglas@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de) [14:16:15] Inari a question: for the MiniResource that I work with, in Swedish, is it enough that the Swedish files return correct generation of rules and words in the Swedish files (Concrete and Abstract) [14:16:57] if you have all the functions in the abstract syntax implemented, and they generate correct results, that's it [14:17:01] you can use the test script [14:17:04] the .gfs script [14:17:43] thanks Inari [14:22:26] you can see what is missing by "pg -missing" [14:22:45] e.g. [14:22:45] Lang> pg -missing [14:22:47] LangPidg : AdvNP AdvVP CompAdv ComplVQ ComplVS ComplVV ConjAP PrepNP QuestIAdv QuestSlash QuestVP SlashPrep SlashV2 SubjCl UsePN although_Subj because_Subj believe_VS by_Prep can_VV here_Adv in_Prep know_VS must_VV of_Prep want_VV when_IAdv when_Subj where_IAdv who_IP why_IAdv with_Prep wonder_VQ [14:24:04] i see [14:40:33] thanks for the "pg". Now I see that there is much I can checkout on the pidg grammar or the Swe grammar! [15:06:08] it's also in the test script :) [15:07:19] aha now I see thanks!! [15:10:01] *** Quits: Gurkenglas (Gurkenglas@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [16:19:36] *** Joins: Gurkenglas (Gurkenglas@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de) [16:56:07] *** Joins: Putti (~Putti@unaffiliated/putti) [19:08:31] *** Quits: doppioslash (sid76291@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cncfviehxebwqkbv) (K-Lined) [19:12:26] *** Quits: Putti (~Putti@unaffiliated/putti) (Remote host closed the connection) [19:16:25] *** Joins: doppioslash (sid76291@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xaalbsrlskeujuzl) [19:18:07] *** Joins: Putti (~Putti@unaffiliated/putti) [21:04:21] *** Quits: Putti (~Putti@unaffiliated/putti) (Quit: Leaving) [21:37:40] thanks for help today [21:43:20] *** Quits: BobL (25fa8291@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.250.130.145) (Quit: Page closed)