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[10:55:52] <spectei> inariksit, how is the basque going ?
[11:05:01] <inariksit> spectei: I added bunch of cases into pronouns
[11:05:14] <inariksit> sorry, into NPs
[11:05:33] <inariksit> don't know if they produce the right results yet ^^ I'll change the prepositions now
[11:05:38] <inariksit> or rather listen to vin :-P
[11:06:07] <spectei> cool :)
[11:08:14] <spectei> > HOLA LO SIENTO MUCHO
[11:08:14] <spectei> >
[11:08:14] <spectei> > PERO ESTAMOS IMPRIMIENDO LAS CAMISETAS
[11:08:14] <spectei> >
[11:08:15] <spectei> > A LA 1 TE LAS LLEVAMOS.
[11:08:16] <spectei> >
[11:08:18] <spectei> > SALUDOS .
[11:08:20] <spectei>  
[11:08:23] <spectei> >_>
[11:10:31] <inariksit> arghh
[11:10:44] <inariksit> well, if they get here on time, it's fine
[11:20:41] <spectei> :D :D :D :D :D
[11:20:44] <spectei> :D :D :D :D :D
[11:20:48] <inariksit> ^^
[11:20:48] <spectei> :D :D :D :D :D
[11:20:50] <spectei> :D :D :D :D :D
[11:21:01] <spectei> "currently in italy"
[11:21:02] <spectei> :D
[11:21:03] <inariksit> currently!
[11:22:04] <spectei> U SANGUE CORSU
[11:22:22] <vin-ivar> "CURRENTLY IN ITALY"
[11:22:23] <vin-ivar> Hahahaha
[11:22:39] <inariksit> , which is catalan
[11:22:42] <spectei> :D
[11:22:46] <spectei> , which is easy
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[11:35:54] <spectei> serious dictionary is serious
[11:35:56] <spectei> 854 pages
[11:36:12] <inariksit> expecting some crazy nominal morphology
[11:36:23] <spectei> haha
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[11:38:51] <inariksit> spectei: did you write the workplan, or are you just infecting people with your style of calling people humans? :-D
[11:38:56] <spectei> haha
[11:38:58] <spectei> i wrote it ^^
[11:47:30] <spectei> really slow :(
[11:47:32] <spectei> 20gb ram
[11:47:37] <spectei> i also wrote that ._.
[11:47:44] <inariksit> hahaha
[11:47:57] <spectei> even more slower :(((
[11:48:15] <inariksit> the original code sounds terrible; if you have code that produces results only to the GUI
[11:48:19] <vin-ivar> ^
[11:48:23] <spectei> yeah
[11:48:30] <vin-ivar> unless you wanted it to be terrible
[11:48:32] <vin-ivar> or inaccessible
[11:48:56] <spectei> jeremy says that he has no idea about programming
[11:49:00] <spectei> he just does whatever comes first
[11:49:07] <inariksit> right, I understand
[11:49:07] <vin-ivar> jeremy?
[11:49:13] <inariksit> that he didn't do it in purpose
[11:49:21] <inariksit> *on
[11:49:49] <spectei> yeah, but it is pretty terrible :D
[11:49:57] <spectei> edit D:
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[12:58:54] <inariksit> the impression I get from seeing irish written and pronounced is similar that I get from danish
[12:58:59] <vin-ivar> hahahaha
[12:59:03] <vin-ivar> ++
[12:59:44] <inariksit> like "hargle bargle wargle" = [hə bə wə]
[12:59:48] <vin-ivar> kamelåså -> chamfhelásghá
[12:59:52] <inariksit> hahah
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[13:30:11] <vin-ivar> isn't this what måns was working on at the summer school last year
[13:30:36] <inariksit> I don't remember if he was working on it at the summer school, but it's definitely måns' stuff ^^
[13:33:36] <spectei> uh oh !
[13:34:03] <vin-ivar> hahaha
[13:34:11] <inariksit> what's the error?
[13:34:12] <spectei> unsupervised
[13:34:17] <spectei> inariksit, i didn't get it either
[13:34:50] <inariksit> to me the middle thing looked like a paradigm, because it was a set of instructions how to produce an inflection table
[13:34:55] <inariksit> with some bits parametrised
[13:34:56] <spectei> yeah
[13:43:54] <vin-ivar> apertium's got it backwards D:
[13:44:21] <vin-ivar> as does everyone else
[13:44:29] <memduh> :D
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[15:14:16] <spectei> RULE-BASED NEURAL NETWORK
[15:14:30] <spectei> , SOME KIND OF
[15:15:22] <spectei> proper thought mind
[15:15:49] <memduh> :D
[15:16:42] <inariksit> hahahah
[15:17:00] <spectei> the idea of rule-based neural network
[15:17:01] <spectei> sounds fun
[15:18:11] <inariksit> I cannot run the basque RG on my server ;__;
[15:18:12] <inariksit> gf: out of memory (requested 1048576 bytes)
[15:18:16] <spectei> :(
[15:18:30] <spectei> this rule formalism is pretty terrifying
[15:24:05] <inariksit> ancient
[15:26:10] <spectei> prehistoric
[15:26:12] <spectei> rule formalism
[15:26:14] <inariksit> 1989
[15:26:23] <spectei> BCE
[15:26:32] <inariksit> haha
[15:26:36] <spectei> :D
[15:27:23] <spectei> :D
[15:27:26] <inariksit> aww ^^
[15:30:05] <spectei> :D
[15:30:08] <spectei> conijo ^^
[15:31:38] <spectei> ._.
[15:31:43] <inariksit> :(
[15:32:03] <inariksit> we need to add shipibo to UD!
[15:32:09] <spectei> yeah!
[15:34:18] <spectei> :DD
[15:34:20] <inariksit> woo
[15:36:12] <memduh> oh wow theyre doing UD
[15:36:21] <spectei> csubj(VERB, PRON)
[15:36:22] <spectei> o_O
[15:36:36] <inariksit> what's csubj?
[15:36:40] <memduh> clausal
[15:37:01] <spectei> e.g. "kicking bottles is fun"
[15:37:06] <inariksit> aha
[15:37:07] <spectei> to kick bottles is fun
[15:37:24] <memduh> hmmmm
[15:38:06] <memduh> Would we use csubj for kurdish infinitives?
[15:38:16] <spectei> depends
[15:41:43] <memduh> Çêkirina Amerîka li 1776 bû
[15:45:29] <spectei> text is a bit small ._.
[15:46:47] <memduh> I mean I have these as nouns in the monodix
[15:46:50] <memduh> but
[15:46:57] <memduh> strictly speaking it might be considered clausal
[15:47:09] <spectei> if they're in the monodix as nouns
[15:47:11] <spectei> just go for that
[15:47:40] <memduh> oynuyorlar
[15:48:05] <memduh> igrayut?
[15:48:41] <spectei> jabble?
[15:48:47] <inariksit> I thought he said "jargon"
[15:48:49] <spectei> ah
[15:48:52] <spectei> that makes more sense
[15:48:54] <inariksit> haha
[15:49:10] <spectei> my person went
[15:49:15] <spectei> GF
[15:49:27] <memduh> kişim gitti :/
[15:51:10] <inariksit> personally, I have no choice
[15:51:12] <inariksit> I have to use GF
[15:52:43] <spectei> :D
[15:53:19] <spectei> very difficult :(
[15:53:29] <memduh> which is easy :(
[15:53:32] <inariksit> hahaha
[15:53:32] <spectei> lol
[15:53:35] <spectei> unlike number language
[15:53:44] <spectei> the rules of which are, very easy
[15:54:43] <spectei> "so many results that don't make sense"
[15:56:04] <memduh> we need number language tshirts
[15:56:08] <spectei> hahaha
[15:56:15] <spectei> and semantic primitives
[15:56:57] <spectei> muonga muonga muonga
[16:03:45] <spectei> ;_;
[16:04:19] <spectei> i bet GF can parse that
[16:07:33] <inariksit> haha I wasn't watching, I was writing FOodsRng
[16:07:52] <inariksit> I don't remember other words but chiizi, munonga and eki/egi :(
[16:08:02] <spectei> viinyo
[16:08:05] <inariksit> thanks!
[16:08:35] <spectei> Italian
[16:08:36] <spectei> also
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[16:16:45] <inariksit> looks legit GF
[16:16:45] <inariksit> Foods> gr | l -treebank
[16:16:45] <inariksit> Foods: Pred (This (Mod (Very Italian) Cheese)) (Very (Very Italian))
[16:16:46] <inariksit> FoodsRng: egi munonga Italian chiizi <is> munonga munonga Italian
[16:17:06] <spectei> :D
[16:17:20] <spectei> i think munonga should be postposed
[16:17:30] <memduh> yeah it looked like it came after the adj
[16:17:40] <inariksit> ah yeah thanks
[16:18:53] <spectei> kazakh!!!!!!
[16:19:48] <spectei> wordoids
[16:21:41] <spectei> :D
[16:21:43] <spectei> errrrrrrrr
[16:22:02] <spectei> extract wordoid
[16:22:03] <spectei> :D
[16:22:23] <memduh> so is this channel the mentor channel
[16:22:31] <spectei> lol nope :P
[16:22:34] <memduh> :/
[16:23:24] <spectei> i have no idea what is going on :D
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[16:25:43] <spectei> macros and templates o_O
[16:25:57] <inariksit> is the thing written in the apertium xml format?
[16:26:01] <spectei> no
[16:26:04] <inariksit> or why is the DSL xml-based?
[16:26:04] <spectei> he made his own
[16:26:06] <inariksit> okay
[16:26:10] <spectei> it's like assembler
[16:26:11] <spectei> in XML
[16:26:12] <spectei> or somthing
[16:26:19] <memduh> oh god
[16:26:25] <spectei> :D
[16:28:18] <inariksit> my tool also reports an error in a rule, if it's using a tag that doesn't appear in the dictionary
[16:28:38] <inariksit> but obviously that kind of check would be easy to write without all the other stuff that my tool does :-d
[16:29:13] <inariksit> (and it would run faster than e.g. 9 hours)
[16:29:35] <spectei> lol
[16:32:39] <spectei> i am an expert
[16:32:40] <spectei> at links
[16:32:42] <inariksit> hahah
[16:32:47] <inariksit> I was looking at the aopertium-wiki
[16:32:49] <spectei> uniform resource locators
[16:32:53] <inariksit> and I would've pasted it to the channel
[16:32:55] <spectei> :D
[16:33:01] <inariksit> and everyone would've seen how easy it is to get help on IRC ^_^
[16:33:04] <spectei> haha
[16:33:05] <spectei> yeah >_>
[16:33:06] <inariksit> but your plan worked too!
[16:33:10] <spectei> you don't need a doctor to come
[16:33:16] <spectei> and type your urls for you
[16:33:17] <inariksit> they saw that they can get help from fran
[16:33:18] <spectei> when you have IRC
[16:33:22] <inariksit> and the way to contact fran is to IRC
[16:33:27] <spectei> :D
[16:42:08] <spectei> apertium xml
[16:42:52] <spectei> sentences can be translated
[16:42:53] <spectei> using transfer rules
[16:43:03] <inariksit> aha!
[16:43:09] <inariksit> I'm fixing prepositions
[16:43:11] <spectei> nice!
[16:43:11] <inariksit> in basque
[16:43:21] <inariksit> s/pre/post/
[16:43:24] <spectei> :D
[16:44:11] <spectei> o_________O
[16:44:37] <inariksit> shit
[16:44:41] <spectei> i need to leave
[16:44:56] <spectei> that's terrifying
[16:44:56] <inariksit> apertium 2.0 is much nicer
[16:45:12] <inariksit> that's rule-based!
[16:45:15] <spectei> LOL
[16:45:22] <inariksit> so many rules
[16:45:32] <spectei> very rules
[16:45:36] <spectei> so xml
[16:46:25] <inariksit> ah damn, my great idea of stems doesn't work with conjunction
[16:46:32] <spectei> argh D:
[16:46:33] <inariksit> nita eta honetan
[16:47:01] <spectei> :/
[16:47:03] <inariksit> nita and honeta are LocStem, and they are combined with a conjunction before the postposition is added
[16:48:36] <inariksit> (see #matxin for 20 random examples)
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