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[12:45:44] <inariksit> spectei: how should I say in basque, e.g., "to me and the boy"? if the preposition is just some case, it's doing "niri eta mutilari"
[12:45:46] <inariksit> which seems legit
[12:46:18] <spectei> you can say either 'ni eta mutilari' or 'niri eta mutilari'
[12:46:21] <inariksit> if it's "under me and the boy", it gives nire eta mutilaren azpian
[12:46:23] <spectei> although i guess the first is preferred
[12:46:24] <inariksit> is that okay too?
[12:47:58] <spectei> yeah, that looks fine
[12:48:07] <inariksit> okay
[12:48:29] <inariksit> do you know if there's a difference with the postpositions that stick to the stem and those that don't?
[12:48:43] <inariksit> so if "ni eta mutilari" is okay, is "ni eta mutilaren azpian" also?
[12:49:10] <inariksit> and I assume that "nire azpian eta mutilaren azpian" would be completely wrong
[12:49:37] <inariksit> if, however, the first one can always be in nominative, that would make my life easier; cause then I could just get away with having stems in the table for NPs
[12:50:09] <spectei> i think it's fine too
[12:50:14] <spectei> "nire azpian eta mutilaren azpian"
[12:50:16] <spectei> yes this looks wrong
[12:50:30] <inariksit> okay
[12:50:31] <spectei> i remember getting told in euskaltegi "basques don't like repetition"
[12:50:41] <inariksit> so "ni eta mutilen" would be ok too?
[12:50:45] <inariksit> "in me and the boy"
[12:50:52] <inariksit> shit I should go to an euskaltegi ^^
[12:51:12] <spectei> mutilen would be plural genitive no ?
[12:52:28] <inariksit> yeah sorry, mutilaren
[12:52:33] <inariksit> my morphology sucks too :-D
[12:53:02] <spectei> i guess 'ni eta mutilan'
[12:53:04] <spectei> semantics!
[12:53:19] <inariksit> Inaris-Air:apertium-eus inari$ echo "mutilan" | lt-proc eus.automorf.bin
[12:53:19] <inariksit> ^mutilan/*mutilan$
[12:53:19] <inariksit> Inaris-Air:apertium-eus inari$ echo "mutilaren" | lt-proc eus.automorf.bin
[12:53:19] <inariksit> ^mutilaren/mutil<n>+a<det><art><sg>+en<post>$
[12:53:30] <spectei> ops
[12:53:32] <spectei> mutilean
[12:53:40] <spectei> my morphology sucks too ...
[12:53:54] <inariksit> isn't en<post> the thing I want here?
[12:54:11] <spectei> <inariksit> "in me and the boy"
[12:54:15] <spectei> i thought you wanted 'in'
[12:54:24] <spectei> $ echo mutilean | lt-proc ~/source/apertium/trunk/apertium-eu-es/eu-es.automorf.bin
[12:54:24] <spectei> ^mutilean/mutil<n>+a<det><art><sg>+an<post>$
[12:54:36] <inariksit> argh yes, sorry again :-D
[12:54:42] <spectei> -an is "inessive" and "-en" is "genitive"
[12:54:45] <spectei> scarequotes!
[12:54:46] <inariksit> too many cases, I'm confused
[12:54:47] <inariksit> haha
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