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[10:07:40] <venicecat> greetings greetings \o/
[10:08:15] <venicecat> i can use a mkS: Adv -> S -> S to make a sentence that starts with an adverb
[10:08:59] <venicecat> for example a sentence that looks like this: "whenever the test is ongoing".
[10:09:28] <venicecat> i could write something like this mkUtt (mkS Adv (mkS (mkCl NP VP)))
[10:10:33] <venicecat> except, the sentence linearised to looking like this: "Whenever the test ongoings"
[10:10:54] <venicecat> the "is" is missing and i dunno how to get it fixed
[10:11:15] <venicecat> ongoing also became pluralised
[10:13:35] <venicecat> :(
[10:19:34] <inariksit> you need a gerund
[10:21:05] <inariksit> can you show the whole code?
[10:21:24] <inariksit> are you creating mkV "ongoing"?
[10:21:31] <inariksit> because it seems to be a verb rather than a plural
[10:21:51] <venicecat> yes i did that
[10:22:06] <venicecat> another way i can think of is to use progressiveVP
[10:22:16] <venicecat> but i'm not sure how to do that
[10:22:22] <inariksit> okay yeah, if you go that way then you could just as easily define a mkN "ongoing" or mkAdv "ongoing" :-P
[10:22:34] <inariksit> ongoing is kinda tricky, it's really "go on" -> "ongoing"
[10:22:35] <venicecat> that lets it fit into Adv -> S -> S
[10:22:44] <inariksit> is whenever supposed to be the adv?
[10:22:55] <venicecat> yes
[10:23:06] <inariksit> (btw sorry for disappearing from the slack, I'm just so busy lately and it felt like too much notifications and stuff, so I haven't been there in weeks)
[10:23:14] <inariksit> (and yet I am here on IRC :-D)
[10:23:27] <venicecat> no probs at all
[10:23:28] <inariksit> (but it's psychologically different to not have notifications! :-D and there are less people on IRC9
[10:23:32] <venicecat> i' prefer irc
[10:23:36] <inariksit> ^^
[10:23:38] <inariksit> oldschool
[10:23:41] <venicecat> :D
[10:24:09] <venicecat> let me try to pluck the relevant parts of the code intop gist
[10:24:14] <inariksit> okay
[10:24:18] <venicecat> my codebase is getting so unreadable
[10:24:30] <inariksit> I'm kinda preparing for exercise session but it's at 13, so still plenty of time to procrastinate ^-^
[10:24:57] <inariksit> it means it's getting big!
[10:26:01] <venicecat> =:-o
[10:36:40] <venicecat> here it is inari and thank you!
[10:36:41] <venicecat> https://gist.github.com/chiahli/e23fea17a57d23572946fb112eab90b1
[10:55:02] <esg> hi inariksit ! when are you off to SF?
[11:03:27] <inariksit> I'm actually staying the whole week here, have to grade exams
[11:03:36] <inariksit> so I'm leaving on friday night
[11:04:20] <inariksit> venicecat: I'll check the code later, now I got to a decent start in the preparation
[11:05:01] <venicecat> of course! no hurry
[11:08:56] <esg> grading: :-(
[11:09:21] <venicecat> Inari yays! I figured out how to use progressiveVP and it turned out right
[11:10:00] <esg> i'm leaving tomorrow. hope to be back soon. i really enjoy SF.
[11:10:00] <venicecat> although i have to use mkV "ongo" so that it comes out as ongoing
[11:13:34] <venicecat> so constructing using ongo is kind of weird but no big issue because i can always replace the word with proceed, happen, continue etc
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[11:41:16] <inariksit> venicecat: yay!
[11:41:49] <inariksit> it sounds a bit dangerous to do a mkV "ongo", but if you know that it will be only used in this context, sure why not!
[11:43:27] <inariksit> if you know that your verbs are going to be used in lots of contexts, you could consider making a special record type, possibly even with semantic rather than syntactic stuff
[11:43:36] <inariksit> like this https://github.com/GrammaticalFramework/gf-contrib/blob/master/phrasebook/SentencesI.gf#L177
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[11:46:24] <inariksit> but this might just be total overkill, and if mkV "ongo" works for your use case (i.e. there's no way it generates "ongoes" or "ongoed" elsewhere), just use it :-P
[11:46:45] <inariksit> actually now that I think, let me check if there is already a go_on_V somewhere
[11:49:28] <inariksit> okay there is, but progressiveVP just gives "going on" instead of "ongoing"
[11:50:27] <inariksit> you could define a special particleVerbProgressiveVP that glues the particle into the gerund form
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[14:14:09] <vin-ivar> there is a #gf SLACK?
[14:14:11] <vin-ivar> D:
[14:29:56] <daherb> vin-ivar: there was at least one at the gf summer school
[14:30:11] <vin-ivar> hahaha
[14:30:16] <vin-ivar> the perils of closed-source software
[14:30:28] <vin-ivar> you can't run slack in a terminal
[14:33:31] <daherb> actually i am mostly using slack via irc gateway in the terminal
[14:50:56] <inariksit> vin-ivar: yeah there is, but I was talking about the legalese slack
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