[07:35:09] *** Quits: proteusguy (~proteusgu@cm-58-10-208-146.revip7.asianet.co.th) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [07:47:49] *** Joins: proteusguy (~proteusgu@cm-58-10-208-146.revip7.asianet.co.th) [12:44:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o inariksit [12:44:58] *** inariksit sets mode: -r [12:46:46] hope the spambots have given up by now :-D [15:12:41] aha, thank you, those are valuable clues [15:17:15] i feel like these clues should be in the tutorial or FAQ or something. or maybe they are and i missed them? maybe i'm blind [15:44:31] I'm not sure, the tutorials are written pretty long time ago [15:45:30] I mean, LibraryBrowser grammar can well be newer than tutorials. the basics about importing vs. opening are explained in the tutorial, but it's totally understandable to not be an expert on them after just reading tutorials [15:51:25] but it would be great if people posted problems whose solutions are "add ParadigmsEng.mkAdv" to stackoverflow [15:51:41] people in all programming languages have similar problems, but if they're easily googleable, they're not so big problems [16:17:29] yar [16:17:49] maybe one outcome of next year's summer school will be an improvement to the documentation. [16:18:34] btw, i know roughly how to do "suburb of Paris". How do I do "Paris's suburb"? [16:23:46] on a related note, i see in lexical paradigms N -> N2, but why aren't there other ways to create N2, e.g. CN -> N2 or NP -> N2? [16:25:12] maybe i want PrepNP ... hmm [16:56:14] right, i am back to where i was two years ago, wanting gerunds lol [16:56:25] let me see if i can remember how to turn a verb, "eat", into a noun, "eating" [17:01:36] i want to say, Paris is a city containing people. [17:04:23] LibraryBrowser doesn't let me say: Paris is a city containing churches. [17:04:49] maybe i need some kind of V -> Prep [19:29:24] *** Joins: glancioni (022a19de@net-2-42-25-222.cust.vodafonedsl.it) [19:42:33] hello! [19:43:10] hello! [19:45:33] freeside: the construction for "Paris's suburb" is in the Extend module, https://github.com/GrammaticalFramework/gf-rgl/blob/master/src/abstract/Extend.gf#L19 [19:47:01] < freeside> on a related note, i see in lexical paradigms N -> N2, but why aren't there other ways to create N2, e.g. CN -> N2 or NP -> N2? <- because N2 is a lexical category. when you go up from lex cats to phrasal cats, there's always a risk of introducing something that can't be downgraded [19:47:47] would you like the parentheses to go like, "(big hairy cat):N2 of (something)" rather than (big hairy (cat):N2 of something):CN? [19:48:38] < freeside> right, i am back to where i was two years ago, wanting gerunds lol <- are any of these helpful? https://github.com/GrammaticalFramework/gf-rgl/blob/master/src/abstract/Extend.gf#L198-L200 [19:49:31] for "paris is a city containing people", you can use Extend.GerundAdv to construct a VP "contain people" into an adverb "containing people" [19:51:19] and then mkCN (mkCN city_N) [19:51:57] I think we definitely need a better tutorial for using Extend together with the API! [19:52:51] haha sorry, not containing paris, containing churches :-D anyway, when you have the CN "city containing churches" [19:53:14] i.e. (city:CN (containing churches):Adv):CN [19:54:03] then you can use the mkCl instance of type NP -> CN -> Cl [19:54:21] and that's how you get "Paris is a city containing churches"! [19:54:42] glancioni: have you gotten further with arabic? ^^ I'm glad to hear you found my blog useful! [19:57:34] (I'm going to have dinner now, but I have my irc client online all the time, so I'll see your answers later, and if you have questions, I can answer here or by email!) [23:26:24] *** Quits: glancioni (022a19de@net-2-42-25-222.cust.vodafonedsl.it) (Remote host closed the connection)