[00:38:35] *** Quits: wmacmil (~wmacmil@c83-252-138-144.bredband.comhem.se) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [02:58:04] *** Joins: drbean_ (~drbean@TC210-63-209-87.static.apol.com.tw) [03:07:53] no idea if Lycurgus sees this, but 1) obviously preposition contraction isn't literally the only thing I am passionate about, I just thought it's a funnier way to express oneself through hyperbole, and maybe more evocative than just saying morphosyntax [03:09:05] and 2) non-english examples, for instance spanish or other romance languages, de + el/le/o -> spanish del, french du, portuguese do [03:09:34] or german von + dem -> vom [03:10:34] here it's just prepositions and articles that go together, but in somali, prepositions merge with object pronouns, passive marker and whatnot [03:12:38] (or impersonal rather than passive) [03:14:41] (now I'm nervous about making these claims in the public internet :-P) [05:22:19] *** Quits: drbean_ (~drbean@TC210-63-209-87.static.apol.com.tw) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+cygwin2 - https://znc.in) [09:37:49] *** Joins: wmacmil (~wmacmil@c83-252-138-144.bredband.comhem.se) [09:51:13] interesting! [09:51:33] someone might have to repost it when they get back online [14:43:00] *** Quits: wmacmil (~wmacmil@c83-252-138-144.bredband.comhem.se) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:44:11] *** Joins: wmacmil (~wmacmil@c83-252-138-144.bredband.comhem.se) [15:49:15] where are categories defined in PGF? [16:03:08] so that when I use the API, and want to parse a string, I can use a category arguement [16:11:53] ok, modified question, I realized Inari had given me the answer I was looking for [16:12:12] but in the PGF docs, the only Category one can get ahold of is [16:12:13] startCat :: PGF -> Type [17:30:55] nvmind, i found mkType by *reading the docs* [18:15:13] *** Joins: Lycurgus (~niemand@cpe-45-46-139-165.buffalo.res.rr.com) [18:15:25] well since it's publicly logged ... [18:16:02] yeah somehow I stupidly ignored those common prepositions in spanish and german because they don't have apostrophe's [18:16:39] if i were to double down on stupid I could say that without the apostrophe they were just words and not contractions [18:17:23] but I do think the phonetic phenomena, sandhi, etc are more common [18:19:06] i experience(d) the epiphany/apophany cycles wrt to the relation of gf to linguistic theory [18:19:52] first, as stated, struct by just pragmatics and no theory after chomsky's talk [18:20:42] the struck by impression of language of thought (or rational thought anyway) from martin lofs/judgements, etc [18:21:13] then review how it actually worked back to quotidian and shallow pragmatics [18:21:22] and i doubt it's done [18:22:50] *then struck [18:23:04] *then reviewing [18:27:11] to be fair, translation is a very limited scope relative to grand NLP [18:27:29] NLP/NLU [18:27:53] fair/reasonable [18:33:43] i assume the number of translation packages that have scope larger than a sentence is small or zero [19:19:53] *** Quits: Lycurgus (~niemand@cpe-45-46-139-165.buffalo.res.rr.com) (Quit: Exeunt) [22:43:48] *** Quits: wmacmil (~wmacmil@c83-252-138-144.bredband.comhem.se) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [22:49:13] *** Joins: wmacmil (~wmacmil@c83-252-138-144.bredband.comhem.se)